Das „SH“ ist die Krönung von Audio-Technicas 95er-Linie. Cartridge "1" produces a higher output and is louder - and louder cartridges always sound inherently better. I have read and practiced over the years that you do want to turn on that last bit, which is above the -6db threshold (6 x the bit rate is the dynamic range). Is it only available to luminaries such as stereophile journos such as MF? I prefer File 2. In der Tat besticht der Tonabnehmer mit krisper Feindynamik, schillerndem Obertonspektrum und einem kantigen Bass. I personally think the test is flawed in the manner. File 1 sounds more detailed, but 2 is fuller and warmer. Zenith Angle Correction: The Final Set-up Frontier! I do not know how my opinion would (or would not) change over an extended listening period. At equal volume levels the second file wins due to the better bass. The harpsichord in file2 sounded sweeter. I'm a more rock, blues and jazz listener than horn symphony style music. Yikes! Auch die Bühne wird wesentlich breiter und transparenter. Vergleichstest Tonabnehmer Audio-Technica AT 440 MLa, Audio-Technica AT OC 9, Benz Micro MC 20 E L, Denon DL 103 R, Ortofon Samba, Ortofon Salsa, Rega … My system may not be at the same level as most of your readers but it's honestly not that bad-plus I have the 2m Blue in my turntable. I've used Sound Studio on my Macs for years. I have a mild preference for file 1 too. File two initially was dull sounding by comparison but it rapidly sounded more natural and less fatiguing. I am not sure I have a favorite which is really weird because both sound so different. As we have noted in the tests of affordable turntables over the years, the vertical tracking alignment (VTA) or the height of the arm above the record is a fixed value and cannot be adjusted easily or indeed at all. I just did my own with an artist's song in 4 formats, LP, CD, 88.2khz download, and the SACD version. I guess file 1 is Audio Technica and file 2 is Ortofon. If we are to truly test the two cartridges, it should be used with a similar input into the amplification. I THINK:), I prefer File 1. Which file is Hana SL and Which File is Ortofon Quintet Black "S"? I prefer File 1. Has MF reveled which is which yet? JO Nº 5 Moving Coil Cartridge. I thought File 1 sounded brighter and more illuminated but File 2 had better Bass and tone. This is all about matching gear, and using the same gain setting on cartridges with different outputs is unfair. I think File 1 was AT and File 2 Ortofon? I always love these shoot-outs. Instead of me giving you my opinion, why not listen for yourself? File 2 is flat and lifeless. A better choice would have been "Pomp and Pipes" (Reference Recordings") even on 44.1 kHz CD. I was glad to see and hear in these two files that the dynamic range was left intact and they both sounds very good to me. I prefer File 2 over File 1. File one seems to be the Ortofon Blue. It would be interesting to know what software others use. "File 2" is the Audio-Technica. file 1 sounds more detailed but exaggerated and bright. 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Autor: Thomas Schmidt: Kontakt: E-Mail: Datum: 07.08.2019, 10:01 Uhr: 228_13745_1 . Try to listen to each independently rather than to "A/B" them and match levels. Sounds like we both try to be honest in the science...a good thing. At home (Meridian Explorer DAC, NAD receiver and Vandersteen 2C's only reinforced that both versions are pretty bad, although file 2 is marginally better. It doesn't seem as punchy as File 1, but it has more finesse. I amplified 2 by 1.7 dB before listening. Couldn't say which is which. It will be interesting to find out which file corresponds to which cartridge, as I have an AQ AT-VM95SH on the bedroom system. 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No question the 150 is a better cartridge. In case you are thinking of the Audio Technica route: I have an AT440ML and a AT150ti (an older titanium cantilevered version of the AT150). Might've been a good idea to normalize the levels! But file 1 was louder, so indicative of the higher output Ortofon with more signal. File 2 does sound a bit muffled in direct comparison but when we go back to File 1 it sounds hysterical (from hysteria, not by making us laugh). Both are very good! File 1 has more liveliness whereas File 2 is more polished. Das Audio-Technica VM530EN ist das 200-Euro-Modell der VM-Serie (siehe auch Familienübersicht VM-Serie) und besetzt damit einen wichtigen Platz, sind 200 Euro doch ein Wert, den viele Analog-Fans nicht überschreiten wollen.. 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Much better bass, in my opinion, though admittedly a bit more muddy. File 1 is the blue But mainly it is just nice to hear that piece again. File 2 is smoother with deeper bass and better bass control. 35/52, 48143 Münster . so File 2 it is! I could live with either. if you've ever compared a $99 Ortofon Red to a $236 Blue you know the sonic differences are considerable, with the Blue delivering far "faster" and more detailed performance thank in great part to its "nude" rather than the Red's bonded and far higher mass stylus. However I did not listen to each file to completion. But not bad. The presentation is harsher as well. Regardless, I liked it better. Better overall balance and more organic, less edgy. Triangle ART Zeus MC Cartridge: The Best For Less? Having a AT-VM540ML, I believe that File 1 is the Audio Technica -- a shade on the bright side of neutral, and I think it shows, particularly at the end. Enjoy! I'll reveal which is which within the week. Bei verbesserter und beeindruckender Gestaltung finden sich zwei Gewindeeinsätze im Gehäuse; somit ist eine Befestigung mit zwei mutterlosen Schrauben am Tonkopf oder einem zugehörigen Tonarm möglich. I suspect it's the Blue. ...has more and tactile bass extension, a lot more detail and wider soundstage. OK so I thought my original comments (Which Cartridge) were slanted due to my listening at work with headphones. Those trumpets are way too bright for me, even sounding more like computer generated sounds than real trumpets. Foickert02 am 04.01.2020 – Letzte Antwort am 12.01.2020 – 16 Beiträge : Audio Technica AT-F7 oder Ortofon Vivo Blue anettec am 24.02.2017 – Letzte Antwort am 05.03.2017 – 52 Beiträge : Ortofon Super OM 40 vs Audio Technica AT440MLb In fact, File #1 sounded edgy, almost like a CD from the early 1980s. First , I normalized each file in Audacity. Audio-Technica AT-VM95SH getestet in Stereo 4/2019. And the highest organ notes poke out for their equally bright, brittle sound. HiFi-Tonabnehmer von AudioTechnica - die Technik vom Fachmann, der Preis vom Rotstift. File 2 sounds more like being at a regular live performance and is less tiring to listen to. I'll listen to them for a while and then post my preference. One engineer I read said that there is no reason to go above -5db, but I think that leaving 3db of loudness disregarded as not a good practice and it lowers the rest of the music as well. Sehr praktisch: Gewinde für die Befestigungschrauben sind bereits im System integriert. I listened from Amadeus Pro with a DragonFly 1.5 and SR-60's. It's really gawdawful. File 1 sounds like an older record, too. Overall, I prefered the sound of File 2 - I thought I was hearing more subtlety of detail, and better defined notes. I did adjust level as File 1 has more gain. Compliance is 20 (x 10-6) . file1 more in your face file 2 more subtle. And it brings the top end notes more forward compared to the rest of the frequency spectrum. Everything You Know About Skating Is Wrong! I generally do not go over -2db in my own work, but overs in digital are bad, so I avoid them at all costs. Any strong preferences one way or the other? Audio Technica has also been entirely switched on about the basic design of the VM95. So what we're hearing is how it sounds through whatever you're listening through, on THIS particular tonearm. He asked which file we prefer, 1 or 2. But I'd wish that there was something else to listen to than what was played. It's warmer, more natural and realistic. didn't guess here, having no experience with either, but ... 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I had to force myself to listen all the way through File 1. Of course you will have to listen "blind" and please state your preferences in the comments section. So here's my guess. The Audio Technica is more midband "solid" and better tracks difficult vocal sibilants. Whereas, repeated plays of #2 don't tax my ears nearly as much. I'd been looking at AT over upgrading to the blue for my Fluance. File #2 : smooth, tonally coherent, natural bass extension, all is well tied and organized, very relaxing and relaxed analogue sound, very natural focus. 7 Paar Montageschrauben (3 mm, 5 mm, 6 mm, 8 mm, 10 mm, 12 mm und 14 mm) mit vergoldeten Headshellkabel ausgestattet; Gewicht : 10 gramm; Länge: 51 mm ( Trägerplatte ) Gesamtlänge: 66 mm The first track would be the Blue, unless Mikey boosted the AT's level enough to confuse. I know this music but I'm only aware of it on cd, where did you get an LP of this? Adding some gain to the cartridge used in file 2 may have swayed me to it. The Hana SL MC ($750) Versus The Ortofon Quintet Black S MC ($999), Soundsmith’s new Zephyr MIMC Star Cartridge: Luxury You Can Afford. So much depends on the amplifier and speakers as well, so I'd say it is very difficult come to a final conclusion of which file sounds best. AUDIO 9/2015 Dieser "magnetic flux damper" soll jene magnetischen Feldschwankungen dämpfen, die jedes MC-System im Betrieb unweigerlich selbst verursacht, und die natürlich eine Quelle von Intermodulationsverzerrungen sein können. A great example of how many angles we can evaluate home audio. I guess I will have to wait for the big reveal next week - but if I had to guess - I'd say File 1 is the Audio Technica with its more advanced styli. I'm also reminded of a conversation with Harry Weisfeld in which he said that not all cartridges mate as sonically well with certain arms. Nothing topflight here but it can resolve more than one might think. file 2 sounds more natural. A profound difference. So I prefer File 2. This happens way too often in pop music. File two was about 1.7 dB below file one. Aber nachdem mich kürzlich das ja bestimmt >30 Jahre alte Audio Technica AT20SLa rundum überzeugt hat, ist jetzt mit einem frisch ersteigerten Ortofon VMS 20 EO MK II schon das zweite NOS-System im Anmarsch. Audio-Technica VM540ML (AT440MLa/b) Ortofon 2M Blue ; Grado Prestige Gold; In the sections below, I will take a closer look at each cartridge in the list above. I think File one is the AT and file 2 is the Blue. Wir haben es fotografiert, aber auf Messungen und Hörtest haben wir an dieser Stelle verzichtet. It's easy to assume that the higher level file was the 2M Blue, which has the higher output. I'd say File 2 is Audio-Technica. With the Donatello Gold MC Cartridge Gold Note Plays “The Price Is Right” (Revised), Sumiko's Songbird is a New, Moderately Priced High Output Moving Coil Cartridge. Denon 103 Slip Over Aluminum Body: Does it Improve Sonics? Check out Audio-Technica’s headphones, microphones and audio accessories today! Now you are at the point of which one mates better with this particular phono stage. Could be more luminous but not in this price range. Which you prefer will be system and taste dependent. According to the manufacturer specs the 2M Blue produces a higher output (5mV vs. 3.5 mV) => File "1" is the Ortofon 2M Blue, file "2" is the AT-VM95ML. The Audio-Technica specs include 4.5mV output, frequency response of 25Hz-25kHz, 23dB channel separation, 1.5dB output balance, 1.8-2.2g suggested tracking force (2g optimal), recommended load capacitance of 100 to 200pF (load+cable capacitance) and the standard 47kOhm resistive load. Sein Diamant hat den „Shibata“-Schliff, der feinste Informationen in der Rille ertasten soll. While this might read as strident to some, it sounds more articulate to me, translating to better stereo image and more detailed reverb tails. Edward T. Grham and Larry Keyes engineered the 1972 release, which, with its generous bottom end extension, wide dynamics and spacious ambiance seemed like a good choice to help you decide which you prefer. And the VM95ML outputs 3.5mV not the purported 4.5mV. Second, I have recorded a fair number of Organ performances and have heard even more live. I love these experiments! Is definitely a bit bright. The 2M Blue weighs 7.2 grams and features an aluminum cantilever to which is fitted a nude elliptical stylus. 1 has more HF extention and slightly more open. Because of the lower output volume cartridge "2" appears to be flat and lifeless. File 2 has better bass, better detail, and tracks a bit better. The Ortofon revealed the venue's clean stop-start echo events, whereas the A-T turned that more into an amorphous "reverb." I would not characterize this file as "warm" because there are sounds that are much harder to discern on this file compared to File 1. Far more realistic to my ears is #2. High Performance, High Value Hana ML and MH Cartridges (Reversed Channels Fixed). The Ortofon 2M Blue specs include 5.5mV (@1kHz, 5cm/sec), 25dB channel separation at 1kHz, 20-20kHz frequency response (+2/-1dB), dynamic compliance, lateral, 20µm/mN, tracking force range is 1.6 to 2g, with recommended tracking force of 1.8g, and the other specs are very similar to the Audio Technica's, though its coil impedance is about 1/3 that of the A-T. Actually, this composition might be better than his Toccata, but Gigout is on my personal "hopefully will be forgotten" list. right to the edge. I have a mild preference for file 1. From what I can glean, it's basically the same as the AT-VM95ML, but with a Shibata stylus. But before I do that, let’s talk briefly about the AT-LP120 and its standard cartridge that it is sold with. I suppose it is AT and file 2 is Ortofon. A fair comparison of the two cartridges would have included a normalization of both files, which had not taken place here. :-). File 1's presentation is not as bright, and has a more cohesive presentation. I have no idea which is which, but I know I like #2 much better. more colours and body, more natural, better tracking on difficult records. So why use a poor recording/mastering/pressing to evaluate a cartridge, even a sub $300 cartridge? I seem to recall Michael writing about normalizing, recommending a -.10 db setting offering the best output, which is what I've used since. The Ortofon 2M Blue specs include 5.5mV (@1kHz, 5cm/sec), 25dB channel separation at 1kHz, 20-20kHz frequency response (+2/-1dB), dynamic compliance, lateral, 20µm/mN, tracking force range is 1.6 to 2g, with recommended tracking force of 1.8g, and the other specs are very similar to the Audio Technica's, though its coil impedance is about 1/3 that of the A-T. Top Händler. The Hana SL MC ($750) Versus The Ortofon Quintet Black S MC ($999), Soundsmith’s new Zephyr MIMC Star Cartridge: Luxury You Can Afford. The cartridge weighs 6.1 grams. Das hervorstechendes Merkmal ist die Ausbeute an Feindynamik. This is why Mike's tests are valuable. And then I will pick the one that stands out as the very best candidate for my AT-LP120 cartridge upgrade. The one thing about vinyl it that the cutting and mastering of the LPs is hard work, then with all of the options we as listeners have in choosing a good turntable and then the hundreds of options of cartridges and phono stages it is no wonder we all hear something difference, and I haven't talked about our speakers or rooms yet. Denon 103 Slip Over Aluminum Body: Does it Improve Sonics? I digitized at 96/24 a selection (Gigout's "Grand Chorus in Dialogue") from Music For Organ, Brass and Percussion (Columbia M 31193) featuring E. Power Biggs and The Columbia Brass and Percussion Ensemble recorded at St. George's Church, in NYC. What I found tonight ( I'm not a frequent digital listener) is that the Win 10 driver for my Meridian DAC defaults to a maximum 48 kHz even though the DAC happily converts at up to 192 kHz. Bass seems about the same to my ear. I enjoyed File #2 more. Neu im Shop. 08/2019 - Thomas Schmidt. Suchergebnis auf Amazon.de für: audio technica tonabnehmer Wählen Sie Ihre Cookie-Einstellungen Wir verwenden Cookies und ähnliche Tools, um Ihr Einkaufserlebnis zu verbessern, um unsere Dienste anzubieten, um zu verstehen, wie die Kunden unsere Dienste nutzen, damit wir Verbesserungen vornehmen können, und um Werbung anzuzeigen. I think it would have been a better comparison if the used gain on the phonostage was better matched. The Audio Technica VM740ML has had some good reviews, with one reviewer greatly preferring it to an Ortofon 2M Black. I thought File 1 was better at conveying a sense of drama in the opening sequence however. PhonoPhono - einer der größten deutschen Spezialisten für High-Fidelity und Analog-Audio: HiFi-Plattenspieler, Tonabnehmer und Ersatzteile. The nude microLinear stylus is fitted to an aluminum pipe cantilever. File1 is definitely brighter Than file2 but if I was having to listen To music (classical) for a long time file2 would be much easier on the ears to me and more like a live concert. Many may have noticed that I trashed the sound of both files and by extension the album itself. So my main question is, does anyone have direct experience of the AT VM740ML and the MP-200? It’s also my preference, but can definitely see those who prefer a more subtle approach enjoying file 2 which I think is the AT. Thanks! Malachi’s First MC Cartridge: Ortofon’s Quintet Black S, Looks Good Enough to E.A.T. And I am happy: the Blue is my planned step up from my actual Red, and I like it´s sound: open, clear, extended at both ends. And....There are so many different opinions on what represents a respected LP that might make a 1970s Columbia US pressing a fit for this test...To be sure, we may mostly agree these are not respected LP!!! Had a much more open sound that I love. Most of us hifi geeks would compare any two cartridges by listening to several types of music from several different pressings we are familiar with and see which one was the best compromise to our own listening habits and LP library. like either.Therefore, could not discern which was better. How Much Would You Pay For This Cartridge? Und mit diesen Attributen ist das E3 das einzige das den derzeit am meisten angesagten Abtastern der Mitbewerber, dem Audio Technica VM95 EN und dem Ortofon 2M Red, paroli bieten konnte. My top-end hearing is weak due to age, which must make a difference, and I don't put a lot of priority on tonal balance. I will listen to these both without A/Bing soon, so I can get an overall sense of the performances rendered by each. # 2 on the other hand has a nicer tone a bit warmer.So i prefer #2. Das gesamte Klangbild hat mehr Tempo. In direct comparison, File 2 sounds a bit muffled. I liked both and I suspect file 2 would make me listen more even though it was less immediate. I put both files into Logic pro, with no changes other then raising File 2 by +3 db to better match the levels. is it still available to the general public or is it unobtanium? Auch der Systemkörper des 520 besteht wie wie bei allen 500er Modellen aus Kunststoff, sein Nadeleinschub ist wie bei fast allen MM-Systemen austauschbar. File 1 sounds more "audiophile" to be sure. Das Audio-Technica VM520EB das zweitkleinste Tonabnehmersystem der VM-Serie (siehe auch Familienübersicht VM-Serie), dabei aber mit knapp 130 Euro nur 20 Euro teurer als das kleine VM510CB. The horns sounded more realistic, and there was more nuance to the organ notes. File #1 sounds more alive than file #2 and more clear. More than a few emails have arrived over the last few weeks touting the sonic excellence of Audio-Technica's $169 AT-VM95ML dual moving magnet cartridge. After raising the level of File 2 even by the minor +3 db it becomes a bit more nuanced in comparison. This proves take YOUR music and listen and then decide, but not sure many stores are doing that these days. Mr. Fremer, did you pick this track because no one cares about any copyrights on it? If memory serves, Fremer surmised that normalizing any greater reeks havoc with some playback software. Audio-Technica bedient sich hier einer Plattform, die erst durch unterschiedliche Nadeleinschübe zum vollwertigen Tonabnehmer aufsteigt. Das erleichtert die Montage erheblich, in nicht mal fünf Minuten ist das System am Arm. The 2M Blue is somewhat more open on top (I wouldn't say "bright"). For example, the famed Denon DL-103 Weisfeld thinks sounds great with certain arms and just okay with others. "File 1" is the Ortofon 2M Blue. File 2 has a hair longer sustain on the cymbal crash and very satisfying bass. But on a short listening, it is possible to prefer the other. it sure changed my outlook on recorded music. It has more HF extension, more definition. File 1 gives a greater sense of immediacy and vivacity on my Fiil headphones. I thought it was clear that most of us could live with either cartridge, but I would have guessed that 1 was the AT due to the stylus upgrade, but is shows you can never know. This was really helpful - will just stick with the Blue. Which file is Hana SL and Which File is Ortofon Quintet Black "S"? Thanks Mickey, well done again ! Am I missing something or wouldn't it make more sense to use a respected lp to see how much the mid-range cartridges can extract from it, rather than determine if/how much better one can make a mediocre recording? File 2 with a bit more liveliness would be great! To me, #1 is far to brittle in the highs. I went back and forth for about the first minute of each file. Greater clarity and extension. File one was louder as has been mentioned and I didn’t try to match them but file 2 sounded the more natural, 1 was a bit too etched. Humbling but fun. Audio Technica AT-VM95ML Vs. Ortofon 2M Blue File Identities Revealed! At first I thought that file 1 was a little harsh on the highs but that was because I needed to turn up the volume on file 2. 262-1556. Fachhändler mit Herz und Verstand - HiFi und High-End Audio … My Highly modified AT95VL would leave both for dead :). For me it made best of what I perceived to be somewhat harsh and overall lo fi recording. File 1 initially sounded more "exciting", but rapidly moved to fatiguing, too bright and edgy, harsh sounding. Glad to see you normalized as well as we have read in the past that in DBT that even a .1db difference is discernable by some and the louder generally chosen as sounding better. File two sounded much more like an organ to my ears and the brass was more natural. File 2 however has a mellow (warm) sound which I could easily live with especially if I had lots of recordings that could benefit from a softer presentation. Just to discuss normalizing further, I normalize my full album rips before I split the tracks, never song by song. Audio-Technica AT-VM95. That's all I'm going to write about them other than to say for around $200 you get more than your money's worth from both! i just saw the original article and downloaded the files to hear them but then i saw a picture in the comments of both files in an editor and knew right away the number 2 was VM95ML :), Here's the reveal of the files used in this. Really?? Please do this quick and easy step going forward, Michael. File 2 is brighter on top listening through my Monsoon planar computer speakers. I first normalized both files. They definitely sound different! I hope not, since I have a 2M Blue. I’m not in this camp so my preference is file 1. The 2M Blue is somewhat more open on top (I wouldn't say "bright"). File 2 sounds a little better put together, perhaps a touch more open in the highs, it had me feeling that File 1 sounded a bit artificial by comparison. Riesiges Angebot und persönliche Beratung im Online-Shop und im HiFi- Fachgeschäft in Berlin It would be cool to see this exercise again with 2 different cartridges, I enjoyed #1 more (the Ortofon). File 1 at first appears to have a fuller sound, but eventually gets tiring. Der Ortofon VinylMaster Tonabnehmer der Ihr Shure System (z.b. Der Tonabnehmer AT-95 E von Audio Technica ist solide und gut. Nothing better than having to use your ears. My displays are helpful when I look at other's recorded music and I see the wave form "fill" my screen and often look like a flat top hair cut near or at 0db, compressed and limited probably to -0.5db. Malachi’s First MC Cartridge: Ortofon’s Quintet Black S, Looks Good Enough to E.A.T. For me, you can't even begin to talk about tone, timbre or "warmth" if you can't even separate the notes in the first place. The system was set to play the file natively. Topthema: TCL präsentiert wegweisende TV … Hifisound,Lautsprecher Vertrieb Saerbeck Jüdefelderstr. (I have no doubt that with better gear it would sound better.). My ankles tell me file two has better deep bass. I like that MF used this LP, a view from the other side of the argument is fun as well. Welchen dieser neueren Audio-Technica Tonabnehmer? Hearing these cartridges made me glad I have a couple of V15vxmr's for my MM collection, but in fairness I couldn't even begin to assess what might've been good qualities in either of these because of the ghastly music. High quality headphones and microphones from Audio-Technica.